I am writing to you for
guidance as I have previously communicated with Mr. Bud Hibbs on
subject collector and I am near the end of what I think is
surely an unjust situation. He STRONGLY
suggested I call you!
This all started about two years ago
to be exact. My wife and were served with a summons (on
07/01/04) for a credit card account (Providian) that we were
under the impression had been charged off by the original
creditor on Jan 2001. We had both lost our jobs close to the end
of 1999 and we almost lost our house. We had no choice but to
stop paying all our credit cards in order to save our house and
obviously ran into a financial mess which would take us quite a
long time to recover from.
We had never been contacted either
via phone or by mail by this company prior to us receiving this
summons. Unifund supposedly purchased this debt from the
original creditor (Providian) and they proceeded to file a
lawsuit against us to recover these funds. We have always been
pretty good with regards to record keeping for all our documents
and we had a copy of a credit report that was dated 10/11/2002
that did show subject account had indeed been charged off on Jan
of 2001. We immediately requested a current copy of our credit
reports and once received we realized that subject account was
now listed under another creditor name (Unifund CCR) and all the
dates had been changed to show a more current date of activity.
Under the account in question that had been open in 1998 it now
showed opened in February of 2003 and the date of last activity
was March of 2003.
On 07/26/04 we notified them via
certified mail (Mr. Jacobson
(their attorney and Unifund CCR) that we disputed the validity of
this debt pursuant to §809 of the Fair Debt Collection Practices
Act, 15 U.S.C. §1692g. 15 U.S.C. §1692g requires that a debt
collector cease collection of the debt until such verification is
provided by the debt collector. They continued to pursue collection
of this debt without validating it and they were clearly in direct
violation of Title 15 U.S.C. §1692g which carries a minimum of
$1,000.00 in awarded damages if I would have decided to proceed with
legal action.
On 07/26/04 we also requested that they
provide us with proof that Unifund CCR Company was licensed in the
state of Florida as a consumer collection agency and provide us with
their license number. They never provided us with this information.
I contacted the Florida office of Financial Regulation’s licensing
and registration department, and there is no record of a company
with the name of Unifund CCR Company on their database. Basically,
Unifund CCR Company was (is) not a licensed consumer collection
agency in this state within meaning of FL. St. §559.553.
This was another direct violation of Title 15 U.S.C. §1692g.
On 07/26/04 we
also asked
them to provide us with a certified copy of the contract that showed
our signature and stated that we agreed to pay for this
d
ebt, and they never complied with
this request
When we appeared in court, we
both informed the judge that we had requested verification of the
debt from Unifund and their attorney via certified mail and our
requests were ignored. We clearly stated that our intentions were to
hire an attorney and prove that Unifund had illegally changed the
dates on our credit reports to show that the debt was more current,
that Unifund was not legally able to collect on accounts in the
state of Florida, and that they had not verified subject account as
required by law.
The judge scheduled a hearing date and I
contacted an attorney.
I contacted Mr. Hibbs and he recommended
I look up an attorney in the NACA website. I did look there but here
in Miami FL. I could not find any attorneys who specialized in this
type of law. Most if not all of the attorneys listed in South FL.
specialized in bankruptcy. I spoke to one of the attorneys who works
for my company and he told me he would take the case. I brought him
copies of all my documentation and he proceeded to build a
counterclaim based on the FDCPA violations.
The attorneys representing Unifund sent
us interrogatories that had questions regarding subject account. On
the interrogatories we admitted that the original account
(Providian) was indeed ours and we had obviously made said charges,
but we did not admit to owing the monies to a third party or
Providian's affiliates as one of the questions posed. We have never
denied owing this money or making these charges.
Once the interrogatories were received
by Unifund's attorneys they filed a motion for summary judgment. Our
counter claim was denied as the judge deemed to much time had
elapsed between the original hearing date and the time the counter
claim was filed. After doing more research my attorney discovered
that Unifund had transferred ownership of the account the attorneys
that were licensed in the state of FL. Again once this was done,
they never informed us about this transfer of ownership. According
to my attorney this is illegal (they have been doing this here in FL
for quite some time now, but there is no case law available) and it
was presented along with the fact that I had never signed a contract
with Providian as I was only an authorized user on said account,
plus the fact that they never verified the account in the first
place in our motion for summary judgment.
The judge denied both motions during the
second hearing. My attorney had prepared a lawsuit based on what I
mentioned above that he was planning on filing if our motion was
granted but when the motion was denied it was not filed. (In
hindsight, I think we should have filed it.)
The attorneys for Unifund filed a second
motion were they basically stated that this was a valid debt. My
attorney brought up the same arguments as before but the judged
ruled in their favor and granted them the motion for summary
judgment. Once my attorney told me, I asked him what options if any
I had left. He explained that we could appeal and go ahead with
our lawsuit to see if they would back off or at least try to settle.
He went on to say that an appeal could be very costly and there were
no guarantees that I would prevail. Deep down inside I wanted to
proceed, but I spoke with my wife and she basically told me she
wanted to close this chapter in our lives and move on.
I have already paid the attorney over
$2,000 dollars and I still owe another $1,300.00. He has been nice
enough to let me pay him in installments as I would not have been
able to pay him this money all at once. The original debt was almost
$4,000 dollars. Of course they (Unifund) tagged on attorneys fees
and some other fees, so the amount is close to $8,000 dollars now.
They did offer to settle for $4,300 . We offered $2,500.00 and they
refused. I have told the attorney to offer $3,500 and if they refuse
I really want to proceed with the appeal and our lawsuit, but my
wife has basically told me we should just pay the full amount, move
on and forget it.
I saw the story where you helped Mr. Kim
on Bud's site, and I thought I would contact you to get your
feedback regarding my situation as a last ditch effort on my part.
These people have not even provided a copy of a contract that shows
that we are legally responsible for this debt and they are pretty
close to getting away with it.
Any help or feedback you can provide
will greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Idalberto de la Torre
Well Idalberto, we
have a solution for you! Tomorrow we will be posting the
entire call with Idalberto and the attorneys who are suing on
the basis of race.
Here is another
Message from Mr. de la Torre dated July 19, 2006
Mr.
Paisola
During the pretrial hearing
for our case, Unfund had close to 30 cases for that one day.
I felt terrible for all these people as they were not very
educated and or did not have a clue regarding their rights.
90 percent of them were Hispanic and could barely speak the
English language. There were also a lot of single women.
One lady in particular was sued for an account of her
deceased husband who supposedly had filed for bankruptcy.
She kept trying to explain to the judge that she was an
authorized user on the account and her husband had filed for
bankruptcy and included said account under said bankruptcy
in her broken English, but the judge ended up entering a
judgment against her anyway. These are the type of people
that this company targets as they can receive judgments
without any type of dispute whatsoever. It seemed like the
attorneys and the judge were on first name basis. I imagine
it must be this way because the attorneys are probably there
everyday with an unlimited amount of cases. What is amazing
to me is how companies like Unifund can exist, and they can
break laws over and over again by trying to take advantage
of individuals who sadly do not realize what is occurring,
they are uninformed as to their rights and protections, and
are afraid of the legal process. They (Unifund) continue to
do this without any restrictions or injunctions being placed
on them.
I filed complaints with the
Federal Trade Commission, the Florida Attorney's general
office, the BBB FL. Branch, and the FL. Department of
Financial Services to alert them of the activities that are
considered common practice by Unifund when this whole thing
started in 2004. The state of Florida office of financial
regulation informed me that Unifund CCR did not have a
license to operate a business in the state of Florida as
of 08/16/04. I have been
checking their database periodically ( I
checked today) and Unifund CCR, is still not showing up as
registered in the state of Florida. In other words, Unifund
CCR filed a lawsuit against me and my wife for an
outstanding unsecured charged off account in the state of
Florida without having been issued a license to operate a
business in the state of Florida. This is a direct violation
of the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FDCRA) and the Fair Debt
Collection Practices Act. (FDCPA)
I did receive a standard
automated reply from the FTC. The FL Attorney's office sent
me a card explaining that they could not get involved since
litigation was already under way. The BBB did place (file) a
complaint on their file. The FL Department of Financial
Services advised that because of such lax legislation in the
state, they were handcuffed with regards to proceeding
with injunctions or legal action against Unifund CCR and
their attorneys.